0000006: HDD(s) not detected on ICH5R (865PE)

(0000010)
Vier57 (reporter)
2006-04-30 04:57

I test this : I prepare a CD with simple a WINNT.sif file, I integrate with newer base nad older (name 6.03 and 6.04)

- with 6.04RC1 : no detect
- with 6.03.4 : detect HDD

I replace TXTSETUP.sif gone with 6.03.4 in CD build with 6.04RC1 : HDD detect ?!

(0000011)
Vier57 (reporter)
2006-04-30 05:11

I test with replace section HArdwareIDsDatabase from 6.03 to 6.04 TXTSETUP file !

The problem persist ! No this section is the problem !

(0000012)
BashratTheSneaky (administrator)
2006-04-30 05:36

I can only say this: please test the other sections as well. I don't SEE any error in the file and it did work for at least one controller not supported by default, which means the problem is probably limited to this single device.

(0000013)
Vier57 (reporter)
2006-04-30 05:52

I test with SCSI.LOAD section from 6.03.4 to 6.04 and HDD detect !

(0000015)
Vier57 (reporter)
2006-04-30 10:56

It's possible to write line in the same order that in 6.03.4 SCSI.LOAD section ?

(0000016)
BashratTheSneaky (administrator)
2006-05-01 15:01

Your suggested solution has been implemented in 6.04 RC2. Don't forget to let me know if it worked!

(0000018)
Vier57 (reporter)
2006-05-02 03:58

After many chnages for test newer version RC2, no solved the problem, you change hardwareidsdatabase ? No the problem, the problem is SCSI.load section :
- if I used old hardwareidsdatabase with scsi.Load section provide 6.03.4 slipstream no problem !

You modify SCSILoad section ! Why doesn't work I don't know, but with list from 6.03.4 works !

(0000030)
Vier57 (reporter)
2006-05-04 15:08

Same problem with RC3

(0000032)
BashratTheSneaky (administrator)
2006-05-09 06:27

Thanks to Vier57's hard efforts to find the cause, he was able to conclude that the reason for his HDD not being detected was the following: in the old DriverPacks BASEs the order in which the text mode mass storage drivers would load, was by reversed alphabetical order (that is: VMware, then VIA, then SiS, then...)
Apparently there is some driver that is conflicting with the iastor driver, though no HWIDs match, not even partially (no other driver even has the same vendor ID). Until an exact cause is identified, this is the best solution, that won't interfere with any other drivers.

(0000040)
BashratTheSneaky (administrator)
2006-05-10 16:53

It's still not fixed according to Vier57. He has suggested got another possible solution though.

(0000041)
Nakatomi2010 (reporter)
2006-05-10 19:59
edited on: 2006-05-11 08:43

I was thinking about adding to my other problem, but I'll just throw myself into this one...

Today I tried using a disc on two systems, both with Intel chipsets, the first was an 800 series, didn't pay much attention to it... Honestly didn't connect the dots between this issue and that one...

The second problem was on an Intel D945GTP motherboard, so I'm assuming the D945G chipset... This attempted install was on a virtual PC... I've done a successful install in the past both with and without the virtual PC and this is the first time I ran into this error...

Basically said there was no hard drive. The 8000 series chipset was an IDE drive in no array in an eMachine T3645, the second one was on a SATA drive on the D945G chipset... Again, not in an array.

Edit: The chipset of the eMachine appears to be an 845G chipset...

(0000043)
BashratTheSneaky (administrator)
2006-05-11 17:55

Should be fixed now...

(0000044)
BashratTheSneaky (administrator)
2006-05-11 17:56

Should be fixed now...

(0000045)
BashratTheSneaky (administrator)
2006-05-11 17:57

Should be fixed now...

Notes
(0000010) Vier57 (reporter) 2006-04-30 04:57	I test this : I prepare a CD with simple a WINNT.sif file, I integrate with newer base nad older (name 6.03 and 6.04) - with 6.04RC1 : no detect - with 6.03.4 : detect HDD I replace TXTSETUP.sif gone with 6.03.4 in CD build with 6.04RC1 : HDD detect ?!

(0000011) Vier57 (reporter) 2006-04-30 05:11	I test with replace section HArdwareIDsDatabase from 6.03 to 6.04 TXTSETUP file ! The problem persist ! No this section is the problem !

(0000012) BashratTheSneaky (administrator) 2006-04-30 05:36	I can only say this: please test the other sections as well. I don't SEE any error in the file and it did work for at least one controller not supported by default, which means the problem is probably limited to this single device.

(0000013) Vier57 (reporter) 2006-04-30 05:52	I test with SCSI.LOAD section from 6.03.4 to 6.04 and HDD detect !

(0000015) Vier57 (reporter) 2006-04-30 10:56	It's possible to write line in the same order that in 6.03.4 SCSI.LOAD section ?

(0000016) BashratTheSneaky (administrator) 2006-05-01 15:01	Your suggested solution has been implemented in 6.04 RC2. Don't forget to let me know if it worked!

(0000018) Vier57 (reporter) 2006-05-02 03:58	After many chnages for test newer version RC2, no solved the problem, you change hardwareidsdatabase ? No the problem, the problem is SCSI.load section : - if I used old hardwareidsdatabase with scsi.Load section provide 6.03.4 slipstream no problem ! You modify SCSILoad section ! Why doesn't work I don't know, but with list from 6.03.4 works !

(0000030) Vier57 (reporter) 2006-05-04 15:08	Same problem with RC3

(0000032) BashratTheSneaky (administrator) 2006-05-09 06:27	Thanks to Vier57's hard efforts to find the cause, he was able to conclude that the reason for his HDD not being detected was the following: in the old DriverPacks BASEs the order in which the text mode mass storage drivers would load, was by reversed alphabetical order (that is: VMware, then VIA, then SiS, then...) Apparently there is some driver that is conflicting with the iastor driver, though no HWIDs match, not even partially (no other driver even has the same vendor ID). Until an exact cause is identified, this is the best solution, that won't interfere with any other drivers.

(0000040) BashratTheSneaky (administrator) 2006-05-10 16:53	It's still not fixed according to Vier57. He has suggested got another possible solution though.

(0000041) Nakatomi2010 (reporter) 2006-05-10 19:59 edited on: 2006-05-11 08:43	I was thinking about adding to my other problem, but I'll just throw myself into this one... Today I tried using a disc on two systems, both with Intel chipsets, the first was an 800 series, didn't pay much attention to it... Honestly didn't connect the dots between this issue and that one... The second problem was on an Intel D945GTP motherboard, so I'm assuming the D945G chipset... This attempted install was on a virtual PC... I've done a successful install in the past both with and without the virtual PC and this is the first time I ran into this error... Basically said there was no hard drive. The 8000 series chipset was an IDE drive in no array in an eMachine T3645, the second one was on a SATA drive on the D945G chipset... Again, not in an array. Edit: The chipset of the eMachine appears to be an 845G chipset...

(0000043) BashratTheSneaky (administrator) 2006-05-11 17:55	Should be fixed now...

(0000044) BashratTheSneaky (administrator) 2006-05-11 17:56	Should be fixed now...

(0000045) BashratTheSneaky (administrator) 2006-05-11 17:57	Should be fixed now...

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2006-04-27 06:47	Vier57	New Issue
2006-04-27 06:47	Vier57	DriverPacks	=> MassStorage
2006-04-30 04:51	Vier57	File Added: DP base.7z
2006-04-30 04:57	Vier57	Note Added: 0000010
2006-04-30 05:11	Vier57	Note Added: 0000011
2006-04-30 05:36	BashratTheSneaky	Note Added: 0000012
2006-04-30 05:52	Vier57	Note Added: 0000013
2006-04-30 10:56	Vier57	Note Added: 0000015
2006-05-01 15:01	BashratTheSneaky	Status	new => resolved
2006-05-01 15:01	BashratTheSneaky	Fixed in Version	=> 6.04 rc2
2006-05-01 15:01	BashratTheSneaky	Resolution	open => fixed
2006-05-01 15:01	BashratTheSneaky	Assigned To	=> BashratTheSneaky
2006-05-01 15:01	BashratTheSneaky	Note Added: 0000016
2006-05-02 03:58	Vier57	Status	resolved => feedback
2006-05-02 03:58	Vier57	Resolution	fixed => reopened
2006-05-02 03:58	Vier57	Note Added: 0000018
2006-05-04 15:08	Vier57	Note Added: 0000030
2006-05-09 06:27	BashratTheSneaky	Status	feedback => resolved
2006-05-09 06:27	BashratTheSneaky	Fixed in Version	6.04 rc2 => 6.04 rc4
2006-05-09 06:27	BashratTheSneaky	Resolution	reopened => fixed
2006-05-09 06:27	BashratTheSneaky	Note Added: 0000032
2006-05-10 16:53	BashratTheSneaky	Note Added: 0000040
2006-05-10 16:53	BashratTheSneaky	Status	resolved => assigned
2006-05-10 16:54	BashratTheSneaky	Status	assigned => acknowledged
2006-05-10 19:59	Nakatomi2010	Note Added: 0000041
2006-05-11 08:43	Nakatomi2010	Note Edited: 0000041
2006-05-11 17:55	BashratTheSneaky	Status	acknowledged => resolved
2006-05-11 17:55	BashratTheSneaky	Fixed in Version	6.04 rc4 => 6.04 rc6
2006-05-11 17:55	BashratTheSneaky	Note Added: 0000043
2006-05-11 17:56	BashratTheSneaky	Note Added: 0000044
2006-05-11 17:57	BashratTheSneaky	Note Added: 0000045
2006-05-11 18:09	BashratTheSneaky	Summary	No detect HDD => HDD(s) not detected on ICH5R (865PE)

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